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Dear Farhad!
The problems connected with development appeal to a dialectic approach. =
To my mind, it means the contradiction between egoistic and communal =
strivings resolution. Quite recently I have launched an orthogonal model =
of contradiction: egoistic strivings are orthogonal to the communal =
strivings. The same can be applied to different pairs of contradictions: =
business-ethics,=20
profit-reputation,=20
stability-innovation,...=20
You can not get rid of one part of any contradictive pair. You should =
respect and control both.
To resolve contradiction one should climb up over the flatness of the =
contradiction, to move into the third dimension just to construct a new =
managing metasystem that is able to measure and regulate contradicting =
forces.=20
Under the managed development I mean this process of the metasystem =
creation.=20
The examples:=20
- GAAP- generally accepted accounting principles,=20
- Tariffs and Trade Agreements,=20
- Kyoto protocol,=20
- Quality standards, such as ISO9000, ISO14000,=20
- Euro currency for European Union...=20
Human civilisation passes through a number of steps from one metasystem =
to another. With any new contradiction inevitably emerges new =
metasystem. It is pity when the necessity of the new regulating =
metasystem is felt too late, as it was with atomic bombs and Chernobyl =
explosions. Accelerating global demography and ecology catastrophe does =
not leave spare time to hesitate about the managing development.=20
And egoistic cry against development means lack of respect to the =
contemporary governments. It is a great challenge for all thinking =
people who care about the future of Earth for our children and =
grandchildren, a challenge, how to construct managing systems without =
handing them into criminal hands of oligarchs.
Let us be optimists. I am sure, without common vision of the future =
civilised society model we can not develop development. And this common =
vision may appear as the result of similar discussions.
Best wishes,
Boris
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Farhad Saba, Ph. D.=20
To: mailto:INTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
=20
It seems to me that Boris is putting the concept of "managed =
development" on the table for discussion. He is suggesting that we need =
to distinguish it with the concept of "totalitarian ideology." Another =
dimension here is the pressure excreted by the private sector for =
"development," as in oil exploration in Alaska, just to give one example =
that is a point of contention in the US right now, and the will (or =
there-lack-of) of the government to negotiate its necessity and its =
extent.=20
=20
Traditional development after the end of WW II meant provision of =
goods and services to as many people as possible. Development was =
idealized as good social policy until the environmental crisis of the =
1970's emerged. Would it be fair to say that the current "crisis" of the =
field of development is that it needs a new definition in light of the =
current awareness about the environment?
=20
Also, "development" in the third world meant accepting and acting =
upon a rational model imported from the then Soviet Union, or from the =
West. Again, in the 70's rational models were questioned by "developing =
countries," in a search for defining their self-identity and =
distinguishing their cultural identity from imported culture. The cry as =
I remember it, several years ago, was neither East, nor West.
=20
So, as a lay person in your field, my questions is how do we define =
"development" today in light of epochal historic events of the last 30 =
years?
=20
Thanks
Fred Saba, Ph. D.
CEO, Distance-Educator.com=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Dear George!
I agree with you. There is an urgent necessity to discuss the global =
development issues. Even if somebody wants to keep his eyes closed, =
concentrating on his internal digestion, it does not mean that =
development does not exist at all. And acceleration of the development =
towards the global ecological catastrophe is frightening.=20
A managed development seems for somebody to remind a totalitarian =
ideology. But those who can think can not help noticing an inevitable =
development challenge that requires urgent and powerful preventive =
measures just not to repeat the Rome Empire crash and not to fall into a =
cultural decay for another thousand years of Gloomy Middle Ages.=20
An avalanche of =91Unsubscribe=92 messages gives a lot of =
information about contemporary social psychology, and it is one of =
scientific results of the started discussion. A shared by a group of =
thinking people vision of the global development perspectives and the =
civilised ways to influence on it may appear only after a similar =
discussion.
I wish you success and good luck,
Professor Boris Sedunov,
Moscow institute of business admunustration
mailto:sedunov@access.orgland.ru
www.eni.edu/page98.html www.eni.edu/page6.html
----- Original Message -----=20
From: George Vigileos=20
To: mailto:INTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
=20
I think that contending ideologies are very much alive. They have =
shifted to the area of interaction between social, economic, and =
environmental issues. Although the market system is becoming prevalent =
in the world today, there are significant differences in the way various =
countries are approaching these issues. A good example is the difference =
between the USA and Europe on Kyoto.=20
Issues such as equity and fairness have migrated from income =
concerns to a much wider arena, that of the physical environment - the =
management of resources. Shifts in the valuation of the environment in =
industrialised countries are having an effect on how developing =
countries plan to use their natural resources, opening development paths =
which could be more equitable in socio-economic and environmental ways =
(eco-tourism, fair trade etc.).
In a more global economy, development decisions are interlinked, =
and this time it will take a change in ideology and lifestyles in the =
North and the South to reach a liveable future for all...Global warming =
sets the pace, as there is no longer any time for 'us and them'.=20
George Vigileos
Countryside & Community Research Unit
Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Man did not weave the web of life - he is merely a strand in it.=20
Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself.
Chief Seattle, 1854.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Farhad Saba, Ph. D.=20
To: mailto:INTDEV-L@PETE.URI.EDU=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
The question of "development" was interesting when there were =
two contending ideologies in the world: Market capitalism, and =
centralized communism. With the seeming demise of communism, what are =
the issues to be discussed? The debate, even in China, is to what extent =
accept the rule of the market. Cuba is the only believer left. Could =
anyone shed some light on the issues of development today?
=20
Fred Saba, Ph. D.
CEO, Distance-Educator.com=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Farhad!<FONT face=3DArial =
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<P>The problems connected with development appeal to a dialectic =
approach. To my=20
mind, it means the contradiction between egoistic and communal strivings =
resolution. Quite recently I have launched an orthogonal model of =
contradiction:=20
egoistic strivings are orthogonal to the communal strivings. The same =
can be=20
applied to different pairs of contradictions:</FONT><FONT size=3D2>=20
</P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>business-ethics,</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>
<P>profit-reputation,</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </P></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>stability-innovation,...</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </P></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>
<P>You can not get rid of one part of any contradictive pair. You should =
respect=20
and control both.</P>
<P>To resolve contradiction one should climb up over the flatness of the =
contradiction, to move into the third dimension just to construct a new =
managing=20
metasystem that is able to measure and regulate contradicting=20
forces.</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>Under the managed development I mean this process of the metasystem=20
creation.</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>The examples:</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>
<P>- GAAP- generally accepted accounting principles,</FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>=20
</P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>- Tariffs and Trade Agreements,</FONT><FONT size=3D2> =
</P></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>- Kyoto protocol,</FONT><FONT size=3D2> </P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>
<P>- Quality standards, such as ISO9000, ISO14000,</FONT><FONT size=3D2> =
</P></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>- Euro currency for European Union...</FONT><FONT size=3D2> =
</P></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>Human civilisation passes through a number of steps from one =
metasystem to=20
another. With any new contradiction inevitably emerges new metasystem. =
It is=20
pity when the necessity of the new regulating metasystem is felt too =
late, as it=20
was with atomic bombs and Chernobyl explosions. Accelerating global =
demography=20
and ecology catastrophe does not leave spare time to hesitate about the =
managing=20
development. </P>
<P>And egoistic cry against development means lack of respect to the=20
contemporary governments. It is a great challenge for all thinking =
people who=20
care about the future of Earth for our children and grandchildren, a =
challenge,=20
how to construct managing systems without handing them into criminal =
hands of=20
oligarchs.</P>
<P>Let us be optimists. I am sure, without common vision of the future =
civilised=20
society model we can not develop development. And this common vision may =
appear=20
as the result of similar discussions.</P>
<P>Best wishes,</P>
<P>Boris</P></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:mailto:saba@CTS.COM" title=3Dsaba@CTS.COM>Farhad Saba, Ph. =
D.</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:mailto:INTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu"=20
title=mailto:3DINTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu>INTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 12, 2001 =
3:43=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: unsubscribe</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D400111811-12042001><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D3>It seems to me that Boris is putting the concept of =
"managed=20
development" on the table for discussion. He is suggesting that we =
need to=20
distinguish it with the concept of "totalitarian =
ideology."=20
Another dimension here is the pressure excreted by the private =
sector for=20
"development," as in oil exploration in Alaska, just to give one =
example=20
that is a point of contention in the US right now, and the will (or=20
there-lack-of) of the government to negotiate its necessity and its =
extent.=20
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN class=3D400111811-12042001>Traditional =
development=20
after the end of WW II meant provision of goods and services to as =
many=20
people as possible. Development was idealized as good social policy =
until=20
the environmental crisis of the 1970's emerged. Would it be fair to=20
say that the current "crisis" of the field of development is =
that it=20
needs a new definition in light of the current awareness =
about the=20
environment?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN class=3D400111811-12042001>Also, =
"development" in the=20
third world meant accepting and acting upon a rational model =
imported from=20
the then Soviet Union, or from the West. Again, in the 70's rational =
models=20
were questioned by "developing countries," in a search for defining =
their=20
self-identity and distinguishing their cultural identity from =
imported=20
culture. The cry as I remember it, several years ago, was neither =
East, nor=20
West.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN class=3D400111811-12042001>So, as a lay =
person in your=20
field, my questions is how do we define "development" today in light =
of=20
epochal historic events of the last 30 years?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001>Thanks</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN class=3D400111811-12042001>
<P><FONT size=3D2> Fred Saba, Ph. D.<BR>CEO, =
Distance-Educator.com</FONT>=20
</P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
class=3D400111811-12042001></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2> </DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear George!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>
<P>I agree with you. There is an urgent necessity to discuss the =
global=20
development issues. Even if somebody wants to keep his eyes closed,=20
concentrating on his internal digestion, it does not mean that =
development=20
does not exist at all. And acceleration of the development towards =
the=20
global ecological catastrophe is frightening. =
</FONT></FONT></P><FONT=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>
<P>A managed development seems for somebody to remind a totalitarian =
ideology. But those who can think can not help noticing an =
inevitable=20
development challenge that requires urgent and powerful preventive =
measures=20
just not to repeat the Rome Empire crash and not to fall into a =
cultural=20
decay for another thousand years of Gloomy Middle Ages. =
</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An avalanche of =91Unsubscribe=92 =
messages gives a=20
lot of information about contemporary social psychology, and it is =
one of=20
scientific results of the started discussion. A shared by a group of =
thinking people vision of the global development perspectives and =
the=20
civilised ways to influence on it may appear only after a similar=20
discussion.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wish you success and good =
luck,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Professor Boris Sedunov,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Moscow institute of business=20
admunustration</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mailto:sedunov@access.orgland.ru">sedunov@access.orgland.ru</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.eni.edu/page98.html">www.eni.edu/page98.html</A> =
=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.eni.edu/page6.html">www.eni.edu/page6.html</A></FONT><=
/FONT></P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P></FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:mailto:gvigileos@CHELT.AC.UK" =
title=mailto:3Dgvigileos@CHELT.AC.UK>George=20
Vigileos</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:mailto:INTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu"=20
title=mailto:3DINTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu>INTDEV-L@pete.uri.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 11, =
2001 4:06=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
unsubscribe</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that contending =
ideologies are very=20
much alive. They have shifted to the area of interaction =
between=20
social, economic, and environmental issues. Although the market =
system is=20
becoming prevalent in the world today, there are significant =
differences=20
in the way various countries are approaching these issues. A good =
example=20
is the difference between the USA and Europe on Kyoto. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Issues such as equity and =
fairness have=20
migrated from income concerns to a much wider arena, that of the =
physical=20
environment - the management of resources. Shifts in the valuation =
of the=20
environment in industrialised countries are having an effect on =
how=20
developing countries plan to use their natural resources, opening=20
development paths which could be more equitable in socio-economic =
and=20
environmental ways (eco-tourism, fair trade etc.).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In a more global economy, =
development=20
decisions are interlinked, and this time it will take a change in =
ideology=20
and lifestyles in the North and the South to reach a liveable =
future for=20
all...Global warming sets the pace, as there is no longer any time =
for 'us=20
and them'. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>George Vigileos<BR>Countryside =
&=20
Community Research Unit<BR>Cheltenham & Gloucester College of =
Higher=20
Education<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>Man did not =
weave the=20
web of life - he is merely a strand in it. <BR>Whatever he does to =
the=20
web, he does to himself.<BR>Chief Seattle, 1854.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:mailto:saba@CTS.COM" title=3Dsaba@CTS.COM>Farhad =
Saba, Ph. D.</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:mailto:INTDEV-L@PETE.URI.EDU"=20
title=mailto:3DINTDEV-L@PETE.URI.EDU>INTDEV-L@PETE.URI.EDU</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April =
11, 2001=20
6:36 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D490253205-11042001><FONT color=3D#0000ff>The =
question of=20
"development" was interesting when there were two contending =
ideologies=20
in the world: Market capitalism, and centralized communism. With =
the=20
seeming demise of communism, what are the issues to be =
discussed? The=20
debate, even in China, is to what extent accept the rule of the =
market.=20
Cuba is the only believer left. Could anyone shed some light on =
the=20
issues of development today?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D490253205-11042001><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D490253205-11042001>
<P><FONT size=3D2> Fred Saba, Ph. D.<BR>CEO,=20
Distance-Educator.com</FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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