Re: Experiences with digitizing material not suitable for aflatbed

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    From: Robert McGeary <mailto:robmac@REMNET.COM>
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    Andrew Stawowczyk Long wrote:

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    > Mark,
    >
    > Here in the National Library of Australia we did couple of projects that involved digitising at high resolution. We a
    med at 300dpi at 100%. As we were working with unique, fragile and oversized material
    > (rare maps, manuscripts) we couldn't use a flat bed scanner. Instead we worked with high-end digital scanning back co
    bined with a Sinar large format camera. It worked extremely well for most items
    > achieving the required resolution. The back was Phase One with 8,400 x 6,000 pixel resolution and 36-bit internal colo
    r depth. Some of the maps we needed to shoot in tiles, later stitching them together
    > on a computer to get 300dpi resolution. It can be avoided by using a new Phase One back called Power FX with resoluti
    n exceeding 12,000 x 10,000 pixels.
    >
    > Some of the important things to be aware of:
    >
    > - Required light levels are very high - can be dangerous from the archival point of view.
    > - Power conditioners (stabilisers) have to be used for lights as light levels have to be maintained very acurately dur
    ng 5-20 minutes of exposure.
    > - High resolution lenses (designed for digital capture) have to be used.
    > - Powerful computers with large hard disks and a lot of RAM (500Mb - 1Gb) are needed.
    > - Scanning back and computers need to be colour calibrated to a known standard (we use CIE D65) and colour profiles ne
    d to be used (ICC) to maintain colour accuracy throughout the system chain.
    > - It is a common practice to capture at 36 or 48-bit colour depth and then reduce it to 24-bit for storage. It gives
    est results.
    >
    > Also, we evaluated an option for capturing images on film (4" x 5" transparencies) and scanning them later on but the
    esults were not satisfactory. It was due partially to the much lower dynamic range of
    > a photographic film than those of digital devices (typically for film it is 6 f-stops and at least 11 f-stops for high
    quality digital devices). Also, it is much more labor intensive and more expensive.
    >
    > I hope that'll help. Let me know if you need more info.
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Andrew Stawowczyk Long
    > Public Affairs Officer
    > National Library of Australia
    > Phone: +61 2 6262 1382
    > EMAIL: mailto:anlong@nla.gov.au
    >
    > >
    > > >>> Mark Jordan <mailto:mjordan@SFU.CA> 04/06/00 11:02 >>>
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > We've been doing some research on the costs of equipment suitable for
    > > digitizing material such as books, oversized posters, drawings, etc. that
    > > we wouldn't want to (say pages from a rare and fragile book) or couldn't
    > > (because of size) scan with a flatbed, even one with a 12x17" platten. To
    > > get 24-bit color at a 300 dpi or higher, we'd have to spend quite a bit of
    > > money.
    > >
    > > Does anyone have any experience with alternative methods of digitizing
    > > largish-size material not suitable for scanning with flatbeds into 24-bit
    > > color, high resolution images? For example, could photograph the items,
    > > create high-quality prints or slides, and then scan the photo? Or is this
    > > kind of method just not practical?
    > >
    > > Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have had with this kind of
    > > material,
    > >
    > > Mark
    > >
    > > Mark Jordan
    > > Librarian / Analyst, Systems Division
    > > W.A.C. Bennett Library, Simon Fraser University
    > > Burnaby, British Columbia, V5A 1S6, Canada
    > > Email mailto:mjordan@sfu.ca / Phone (604) 291 5753 / Fax (604) 291 3023
    >
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    > Mark,
    > <p>Here in the National Library of Australia we did couple of projects
    > that involved digitising at high resolution.&nbsp; We aimed at 300dpi at
    > 100%.&nbsp; As we were working with unique, fragile and oversized material
    > (rare maps, manuscripts) we couldn't use a flat bed scanner.&nbsp; Instead
    > we worked with high-end digital scanning back combined with a Sinar large
    > format camera. It worked extremely well for most items achieving the required
    > resolution. The back was Phase One with 8,400 x 6,000 pixel resolution
    > and 36-bit internal colour depth.&nbsp; Some of the maps we needed to shoot
    > in tiles, later stitching them together on a computer to get 300dpi resolution.&nbsp;
    > It can be avoided by using a new Phase One back called Power FX with resolution
    > exceeding 12,000 x 10,000 pixels.
    > <p>Some of the important things to be aware of:
    > <p>- Required light levels are very high - can be dangerous from the archival
    > point of view.
    > <br>- Power conditioners (stabilisers) have to be used for lights as light
    > levels have to be maintained very acurately during 5-20 minutes of exposure.
    > <br>- High resolution lenses (designed for digital capture) have to be
    > used.
    > <br>- Powerful computers with large hard disks and a lot of RAM (500Mb
    > - 1Gb) are needed.
    > <br>- Scanning back and computers need to be colour calibrated to a known
    > standard (we use CIE D65) and colour profiles need to be used (ICC) to
    > maintain colour accuracy throughout the system chain.
    > <br>- It is a common practice to capture at 36 or 48-bit colour depth and
    > then reduce it to 24-bit for storage.&nbsp; It gives best results.
    > <p>Also, we evaluated an option for capturing images on film (4" x 5" transparencies)
    > and scanning them later on but the results were not satisfactory.&nbsp;
    > It was due partially to the much lower dynamic range of a photographic
    > film than those of digital devices (typically for film it is 6 f-stops
    > and at least 11 f-stops for high quality digital devices). Also, it is
    > much more labor intensive and more expensive.
    > <p>I hope that'll help.&nbsp; Let me know if you need more info.
    > <p>Regards
    > <p>Andrew Stawowczyk Long
    > <br>Public Affairs Officer
    > <br>National Library of Australia
    > <br>Phone: +61 2 6262 1382
    > <br>EMAIL: mailto:anlong@nla.gov.au
    > <br><a href="http://timeframes.natlib.govt.nz/"></a>&nbsp;
    > <blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
    > <br>>>> Mark Jordan &lt;mailto:mjordan@SFU.CA> 04/06/00 11:02 >>>
    > <br>Hi,
    > <p>We've been doing some research on the costs of equipment suitable for
    > <br>digitizing material such as books, oversized posters, drawings, etc.
    > that
    > <br>we wouldn't want to (say pages from a rare and fragile book) or couldn't
    > <br>(because of size) scan with a flatbed, even one with a 12x17" platten.
    > To
    > <br>get 24-bit color at a 300 dpi or higher, we'd have to spend quite a
    > bit of
    > <br>money.
    > <p>Does anyone have any experience with alternative methods of digitizing
    > <br>largish-size material not suitable for scanning with flatbeds into
    > 24-bit
    > <br>color, high resolution images? For example, could photograph the items,
    > <br>create high-quality prints or slides, and then scan the photo? Or is
    > this
    > <br>kind of method just not practical?
    > <p>Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have had with this kind of
    > <br>material,
    > <p>Mark
    > <p>Mark Jordan
    > <br>Librarian / Analyst, Systems Division
    > <br>W.A.C. Bennett Library, Simon Fraser University
    > <br>Burnaby, British Columbia, V5A 1S6, Canada
    > <br>Email mailto:mjordan@sfu.ca / Phone (604) 291 5753 / Fax (604) 291 3023</blockquote>
    > </html>
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