Re: pens for marking CDs

From: Guenter Waibel (guenter@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU)
Date: Wed Apr 24 2002 - 17:20:01 CDT

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    Date:         Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:20:01 -0700
    From: Guenter Waibel <mailto:guenter@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU>
    Subject:      Re: pens for marking CDs
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    <pre> For whatever it's worth, the good folks at MITSUI have turned this perennial question into a marketing ploy and now offer a pen designed for writing on CD-Rs, guaranteed not to damage your media. Check it out at: http://www.mitsuicdr-store.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/online-store/scstore/p-00000100.html?L+scstore+xscn4273+102306 764. I have used a regular felt-tip permanent marker for numbering our CDs, and so far (knock on wood!), no problem. My take on the issue is that there might be something there (meaning in the long run, some markers probably do corrupt the media), but I'm slightly consoled by the fact that we'd never keep our archival files on the media long enough for that to happen. Just as an example, our oldest archival CDs are 5 years old now, and they're currently being transferred to DVD-R. I have no doubt that 5-10 years down the road we're looking at the next migration. Despite Larry's observation, I'd be very surprised if a good archival cd-r such as ricoh platinum (no longer made - r.i.p) or mitsui couldn't withstand the marker for that time-period. However, caution is indicated, and I think this post will prompt me to go looking for a water-based ink pen as well...

    Cheers, Guenter

    >Some folks say that using a water-based ink pen is OK, but in general
    >writing on CDs should be avoided if at all possible. I believe all CDs (at
    >least the good ones) have a unique number assigned by the manufacturer and
    >located on their inner hub, which you can use to create a separate index to
    >their contents.
    >
    >________________________
    >Hannah Frost
    >Media Preservation Librarian
    >Stanford University Libraries
    >
    >
    >
    >At 04:46 PM 4/24/2002 -0400, you wrote:
    >>I feel odd asking the listserv about pens, but this does have to do with
    >>imaging, indirectly.
    >>
    >>I was in the process of backing up our image files onto CD and looked at a
    >>CD I had burned 6 months ago. The ink from the permanent ink pen I had
    >>used (Kaiser - Schreiber) has bled from the letters into the surrounding
    >>white on the label layer. I don't know if it's limited to the label layer
    >>or it has/will bleed into the CD substrata (I can still use the CD, so this
    >>is not an impending crisis). I was wondering if this is a common
    >>experience or if there are other pens I should be using. Perhaps the PEC
    >>Pens?
    >>
    >>Feel free to reply directly to my e-mail.
    > >
    > >--Larry Wentzel
    > >--Digital Preservation Coordinator
    > >--Penn State University Libraries

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