Message-Id: <200011121450.HAA26166@dns.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:48:08 EST From: Kari Kraus <mailto:KKraus27@AOL.COM> Subject: Fwd: image description as metadata To: mailto:IMAGELIB@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
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My previous email contained some annoying formatting codes (my apologies: I
had pasted in some text from a Word document) so I'm resending what I hope is
a more legible version.
Many thanks,
Kari Kraus
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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:44:02 EST
Subject: Re: image description as metadata
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> I'm hoping someone on the list can point me to a study or two on image
> description as metadata. My sense is that while controlled vocabularies are
> a favorite talking point among information managers, the free-text
> descriptions that often accompany visual objects in a database haven't been
> subjected to the same kind of scrutiny. A representative example that to my
> mind underscores the need for more conversation:
>
> In its recently published guidelines on metadata, the Digital Imaging Group
> (comprised of representatives from Kodak, Canon, Hewlett-Packard,and Fuji,
> among a host of others) had this to say: "once an image is retrieved, some
> data that describes the image but is not useful when searching may be
> included. For example 'Craig is the guy asleep on the
> lounge' is not all that useful when searching, but is useful when
> describing the content.
>
> Now it is not my intention to impugn the recommendations set forth in this
> ambitious document (a milestone achievement that attempts to establish
> much-needed jurisdiction over the largely makeshift world of metadata
> production; its discussion on image capture metadata, for example, is
> admirably comprehensive and authoritative), but the tautology underlying
> this
> quotation (keywords in first sentence: "describes . . . useful . . .
> searching"; keywords in second sentence: "useful . . . searching . . .
> describing") does little to help clarify the nature of the interface
> between these respective data fields.
>
> Any thoughts on how to define the relationship between descriptive and more
> strictly classificatory categories of information? Is there a theoretical
> body of literature in place that looks at the challenge of describing
> images?
> A set of guidelines or recommendations? Any suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Kari Kraus
> University of Rochester
> mailto:kkru@mail.rochester.edu
> mailto:kkraus27@aol.com
>
>
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I'm hoping someone on the list can point me to a study or two on image
<BR>description as metadata. My sense is that while controlled vocabularies are
<BR>a favorite talking point among information managers, the free-text
<BR>descriptions that often accompany visual objects in a database haven't been
<BR>subjected to the same kind of scrutiny. A representative example that to my
<BR>mind underscores the need for more conversation:
<BR>
<BR>In its recently published guidelines on metadata, the Digital Imaging Group
<BR>(comprised of representatives from Kodak, Canon, Hewlett-Packard,and Fuji,
<BR>among a host of others) had this to say: "once an image is retrieved, some
<BR>data that describes the image but is not useful when searching may be
<BR>included. For example 'Craig is the guy asleep on the
<BR>lounge' is not all that useful when searching, but is useful when <BR>describing the content.
<BR>
<BR>Now it is not my intention to impugn the recommendations set forth in this
<BR>ambitious document (a milestone achievement that attempts to establish
<BR>much-needed jurisdiction over the largely makeshift world of metadata
<BR>production; its discussion on image capture metadata, for example, is
<BR>admirably comprehensive and authoritative), but the tautology underlying <BR>this
<BR>quotation (keywords in first sentence: "describes . . . useful . . .
<BR>searching"; keywords in second sentence: "useful . . . searching . . .
<BR>describing") does little to help clarify the nature of the interface
<BR>between these respective data fields.
<BR>
<BR>Any thoughts on how to define the relationship between descriptive and more
<BR>strictly classificatory categories of information? Is there a theoretical
<BR>body of literature in place that looks at the challenge of describing <BR>images?
<BR>A set of guidelines or recommendations? Any suggestions would be greatly
<BR>appreciated.
<BR>
<BR>Best wishes,
<BR>
<BR>Kari Kraus
<BR>University of Rochester
<BR>mailto:kkru@mail.rochester.edu
<BR>mailto:kkraus27@aol.com
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