Re: Fwd: image description as metadata

From: David Adams (David.Adams@NATLIB.GOVT.NZ)
Date: Sun Nov 12 2000 - 14:09:15 CST

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    From: David Adams <mailto:David.Adams@NATLIB.GOVT.NZ>
    Subject:      Re: Fwd: image description as metadata
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    <pre> This publication may be of help:
    "Metadata for Digital Images - DIG35 Specification" August 2000 - Digital Imaging Group Inc.

    see www.digitalimaging.org

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    My previous email contained some annoying formatting codes (my apologies: I had pasted in some text from a Word document) so I'm resending what I hope is a more legible version.

    Many thanks,

    Kari Kraus

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    <BR>Kari Kraus</FONT></HTML>

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    > I'm hoping someone on the list can point me to a study or two on image
    > description as metadata. My sense is that while controlled vocabularies are
    > a favorite talking point among information managers, the free-text
    > descriptions that often accompany visual objects in a database haven't been
    > subjected to the same kind of scrutiny. A representative example that to my
    > mind underscores the need for more conversation:
    >
    > In its recently published guidelines on metadata, the Digital Imaging Group
    > (comprised of representatives from Kodak, Canon, Hewlett-Packard,and Fuji,
    > among a host of others) had this to say: "once an image is retrieved, some
    > data that describes the image but is not useful when searching may be
    > included. For example 'Craig is the guy asleep on the
    > lounge' is not all that useful when searching, but is useful when
    > describing the content.
    >
    > Now it is not my intention to impugn the recommendations set forth in this
    > ambitious document (a milestone achievement that attempts to establish
    > much-needed jurisdiction over the largely makeshift world of metadata
    > production; its discussion on image capture metadata, for example, is
    > admirably comprehensive and authoritative), but the tautology underlying
    > this
    > quotation (keywords in first sentence: "describes . . . useful . . .
    > searching"; keywords in second sentence: "useful . . . searching . . .
    > describing") does little to help clarify the nature of the interface
    > between these respective data fields.
    >
    > Any thoughts on how to define the relationship between descriptive and more
    > strictly classificatory categories of information? Is there a theoretical
    > body of literature in place that looks at the challenge of describing
    > images?
    > A set of guidelines or recommendations? Any suggestions would be greatly
    > appreciated.
    >
    > Best wishes,
    >
    > Kari Kraus
    > University of Rochester
    > mailto:kkru@mail.rochester.edu
    > mailto:kkraus27@aol.com
    >
    >

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    <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" I'm hoping someone on the list can point me to a study or two on image
    <BR>description as metadata. &nbsp;My sense is that while controlled vocabularies are
    <BR>a favorite talking point among information managers, the free-text
    <BR>descriptions that often accompany visual objects in a database haven't been
    <BR>subjected to the same kind of scrutiny. &nbsp;A representative example that to my
    <BR>mind underscores the need for more conversation:
    <BR>
    <BR>In its recently published guidelines on metadata, the Digital Imaging Group
    <BR>(comprised of representatives from Kodak, Canon, Hewlett-Packard,and Fuji,
    <BR>among a host of others) had this to say: "once an image is retrieved, some
    <BR>data that describes the image but is not useful when searching may be
    <BR>included. For example 'Craig is the guy asleep on the
    <BR>lounge' is not all that useful when searching, but is useful when <BR>describing the content.
    <BR>
    <BR>Now it is not my intention to impugn the recommendations set forth in this
    <BR>ambitious document (a milestone achievement that attempts to establish
    <BR>much-needed jurisdiction over the largely makeshift world of metadata
    <BR>production; its discussion on image capture metadata, for example, is
    <BR>admirably comprehensive and authoritative), but the tautology underlying <BR>this
    <BR>quotation (keywords in first sentence: "describes . . . useful . . .
    <BR>searching"; keywords in second sentence: "useful . . . searching . . .
    <BR>describing") does little to help clarify the nature of the interface
    <BR>between these respective data fields.
    <BR>
    <BR>Any thoughts on how to define the relationship between descriptive and more
    <BR>strictly classificatory categories of information? &nbsp;Is there a theoretical
    <BR>body of literature in place that looks at the challenge of describing <BR>images?
    <BR>A set of guidelines or recommendations? &nbsp;Any suggestions would be greatly
    <BR>appreciated.
    <BR>
    <BR>Best wishes,
    <BR>
    <BR>Kari Kraus
    <BR>University of Rochester
    <BR>mailto:kkru@mail.rochester.edu
    <BR>mailto:kkraus27@aol.com
    <BR>
    <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    <BR>
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