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The Nepal Digest Thursday 6 April 95: Chaitra 23 2051 BkSm Volume 37 Issue 3
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* TND Board of Staff *
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* +++++ Food For Thought +++++ *
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* "If you don't stand up for something, you will fall for anything" -Dr. MLK *
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From: "AMREETA REGMI" <REGMI@lib.brenau.edu>
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 19:17:07 EST
Subject: Vikram Chettri and Yuvonne Chow
I am trying to locate Vikram Chettri and Yuvonne Chow, who I last
believe were serving as U.N. Volunteers in Papua New Guinea. They
are apparently in Canada now. I would appreciate if anybody could
give me any information about their whereabouts at my e-mail address
regmi@lib.brenau.edu
Thank you - Amreeta Regmi (Atlanta, Georgia)
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 11:26:16 +1000
From: s.buzer@qut.edu.au
Subject: ACAP IN THE MUSTANG
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
dear fellow netters,
I am interested in becoming involved with ACAP (Annapurna Conservation Area
Project) who, as I understand it, are now looking at management problems for
ecotourism in the Upper Mustang area, around LoMantang, Upper Kali Gandaki
region, Central Nepal.
I have been a regular visitor to Nepal for the past seventeen years,
concentrating on the central area, and would like to give something back to
the people of the area. Does anyone know of a particular person I can
contact, since I have sent letters, visited their office in Gandrung and
Kathmandu, and received no answers to my offers (which were probably buried
under all the paperwork).
I am a landscape ecologist, with considerable experience with landscape
assessment and GIS computer systems, as well as remote sensing. My
undergraduate degrees are in Anthropology and Geography (physical and
biogeography), and my doctorate involved developing methods to deal with
describing and modelling the processes within broader scale landscapes. I
am certain that someone can put me to some useful purpose somewhere.
Please note that this is on a VOLUNTARY basis, I see it as part of my
responsibility as an academic.
Please reply to my Email direct.
Namaste (and Tashi Dhele, if you are Thakali !!!)
Dr Sue Buzer
School Planning, Landscape Architecture
and Surveying,
Queensland University of Technology,
Brisbane. Queensland, AUSTRALIA.
Telephone 07 864 1197
Fax 07 864 1528
Email S.BUZER@QUT.EDU.AU
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:16:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nuru Lama <nurulama@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: BKS
To: The Editor <nepal-request@cs.niu.edu>
Dear Editor,
This is a reply specifically meant for Mr. Amulya Tuladhar who so
'bravely' stepped forward and accused all BKS alums of being "products of
cheating." I just do not understand how Mr. Tuladhar got the 'intellectual
license' to make such gross generalization based on partial evidence. I
am not trying to defend the validity of BKS here but expressing my
regrets that a well-known "TND intellectual" like Mr. Tuladhar should
employ his emotions to accuse the whole BKS population of "looting
national property." I agree that the BKS student selection process has not
been wholly fair but to say that every BKS student employed some covert
means to enter BKS is taking it just too far.Mr. Tuladhar provides three
cases to illustrate and support his 'blatant' argument. I would advise
Mr. Tuladhar to present the whole picture and not rush to a 'supposedly
powerful' conclusion that may sound impressive but is based on pure
imaginative construction. I could easily provide
Mr. Tuladhar a long list of the 'genuinely' poor students at BKS.
I truly wonder how BKS
could have maintained its superior academic prowess if it had selected
students on such an ad hoc basis?
Nuru
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:15:54 -0400
From: neup2011@mach1.wlu.ca (Bhanu Neupane u)
Subject: Info!
Can Somebody tell me - when Chinese historian Huen Sang visited Nepal?
- When was the book "heros and builders of Nepal"
by Rishikesh Shah published?
- When is .... Mahato (forgot the name!)
from Nepal, who was one the bioscientists in that
Bio-sphere II project, coming out ? Is he still a
Nepali citizen?
Please, mail the responses directly to my account, many may not find it
relevant.
Thanx!
B.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:19:26 -0400
From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha)
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: DISSOLVING NEPAL
Cross-posted from SCN:
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DISSOLVING NEPAL: Nepal was once a proud HINDU country just as England is
Christian. But she could NOT defend her Dharma before the ATTACK mounted
by Italian born Sonia Gandhi, her husband Robert Gandhi and their stooge
Parliament in New Delhi. The result was Nepal's crumbling fall to
"secularism" which is all right if yours is a rich country like Germany or
Italy where (compulsory) Religious Education means CHRISTIAN education, or
if yours is a committed country like England where "Defender of Faith" is
part of the monarch's title. // Pakistan's advance into South Kashmir and
domination of Nepal's western frontier means utmost DANGER. There will be
increased infiltration from East Bengal, Kashmir and Pakistan. More
mosques will come up to serve as stores of weaponry and centres of
propaganda. More and more Nepalese girls will be enslaved through "nikah"
and made to produce numerous offspring each, to increase NUMBERS. Catholic
nuns and missionaries will not miss the opportunity, either. Many will
enter Nepal in the garb of 'English language teachers' as in Mongolia,
Japan, Vietnam and Thailand. The erosion of Hinduism will accelerate.
Thereafter Nepal will be lost for ever. His Majesty, too, will run for
life- just like Maharajah Hari Singh of Jammu & Kashmir. Posterity will
say, "The Hindus of Hindusthan proved 'hijdas' (eunuchs) and could do
NOTHING to stop the rot in neighbouring Nepal."
"Young India" Quarterly, published from Westborough, U.K.
Views expressed in "Young India" not necessarily reflect those of the poster.
Permission was obtained from the publishers for reproduction on the Internet.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:21:06 -0400
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Leftist Demonstrators Stone Hillary Rodham Clinton's Car
From: abdutta@icaen.uiowa.edu (jit)
DATE=3/31/95
TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT
NUMBER=2-176372
TITLE=NEPAL / CLINTON (S)
BYLINE=MICHAEL DRUDGE
DATELINE=NEW DELHI
CONTENT=
VOICED AT:
INTRO: ANTI-AMERICAN PROTESTORS HURLED STONES AT A MOTORCADE
CARRYING AMERICAN FIRST LADY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON AS SHE
ARRIVED FRIDAY IN NEPAL. CORRESPONDENT MICHAEL DRUDGE REPORTS
FROM THE V-O-A SOUTH ASIA BUREAU IN NEW DELHI.
TEXT: NEPALESE POLICE SAY THEY HAVE ARRESTED 23 LEFTIST STUDENTS
WHO TRIED TO STONE MRS. CLINTON'S ARMOR-PLATED LIMOUSINE.
JOURNALISTS TRAVELING WITH THE FIRST LADY SAY NONE OF THE ROCKS
HIT THE MOTORCADE AND NO ONE WAS REPORTED INJURED. POLICE
ATTACKED THE DEMONSTRATORS WITH LONG STICKS.
THE DEMONSTRATORS, FROM THE UNITED LEFT FRONT PARTY, CARRIED
SIGNS SAYING "IMPERIALISTS GO HOME."
MRS. CLINTON'S MOTORCADE PROCEEDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT TO A
HEALTH CLINIC.
IN BANGLADESH, WHERE MRS. CLINTON TRAVELS SUNDAY, MUSLIM
DEMONSTRATORS MARCHED IN DHAKA TO WARN HER TO STAY AWAY FROM
VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE TRYING TO HELP VILLAGE WOMEN.
MRS. CLINTON IS SCHEDULED TO VISIT WESTERN BANGLADESH TO SEE A
FAMILY PLANNING PROJECT AND A BANK THAT GIVES SMALL LOANS TO POOR
WOMEN. (SIGNED).
NEB/MWD/JWH
31-Mar-95 7:54 AM EST (1254 UTC)
NNNN
Source: Voice of America
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From: "F.X.Faria" <F.X.Faria@sheffield.ac.uk>
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:25:09 +0000
Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - April 3, 1995 (20 Chaitra 2051 BkSm)
I WOULD BE PLEASED IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING
LINES IN YOUR DIGEST.
I FRANCIS FARIA, AM 26 YEARS OF AGE, SINGLE AN INDIAN
FROM BOMBAY RESEARCHING IN EUROPE AND AFRICA AND
STUDYING TOWARDS A DOCTORAL DEGREE IN EDUCATION IN
ENGLAND. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME GOOD NEPALI FRIENDS.
WOULD ANY ONE BE INTERESTED ?
HOPE TO HEAR FROM SOME GOOD NEPALIS SOON.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 10:57:50 EDT
From: eknath@math.cornell.edu (Eknath Belbase - Math Grad)
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - April 3, 1995 (20 Chaitra 2051 BkSm)
Politics in Nepal/Nepotism
--------------------------
Every time a new government takes power, with new ministers and so on,
we hear reports of all the corruption and alleged nepotism going on.
This is, in general, a very good thing, but I have been concerned about
one thing in particular: when we get lists of who was appointed where,
and whose children are going where to study, no mention is made of
CAUSALITY. How do we know those people really didn't DESERVE whatever
they got, and wouldn't have gotten it regardless of whether or not
their relatives were in power.
Example: Mr. X is the Minister of Blah Blah Blah. His two kids are
studying in China. Ok, so what? If he's a minister, he probably belongs
to a higher than average income level, and could perhaps afford sending his
kids to China to study regardless of his position. Unless there is more
specific information [like they got a government scholarship to do so!],
this sort of correlation amounts to no more than innuendo and gossip,
with journalists trying to scoop up as much dirt as possible on people
in high government positions.
While I agree that many of the things recently posted sound suspicious
and perhaps worthy of more detailed examination, let's not forget that
journalists, in order to sell more papers, can be almost as crooked as
the politicians they write about (almost, but not quite ;-).
Eknath Belbase
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 01:14:36 -0700
From: nrb947813@rccvax.ait.ac.th
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: QUESTION
WHAT IS THE NAME OF HOLLY BOOK OF BUDHHISM ?
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:58:52 -0800
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
From: bhushan@Tanner.COM (Bhushan Mudbhary)
Subject: Bad air in KTM
Pravignya Regmi writes:
"I have decided to begin works to protect the environment in
Nepal. A non profit organization to protect environment and to promote
sustainable development will be established in Nepal in near future. I
will be updating the progress through the internet. "
I commend PR's efforts on what is obviously a worthy cause. But I wonder,
has PR thought about working WITH existing organisations already in place
in Nepal, instead of creating a new one from scratch.I know of several
individuals, such as Mr. Anil Chitrakar, Mr. Bikas Pandey, Mr. Kumar
Pandey, Mr. Bhushan Tuladhar etc.. to name a few, who are no doubt making
the type of contributions that PR wishes to initiate.
In any case, kudos to PR for striving towards a laudable goal that has REAL
impact on REAL people.
Cheers.
Bhushan
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:41:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: loomin <rd038@aix1.ucok.edu>
To: nepal_news_bulletin <nepal@cs.niu.edu>
Subject: RE: amulya's corrosive remark
This is in response to amulya's naive verbal attack over budhanilkantha
alums. I won't deny the fact that Budhanilkantha school gobbles up a
large portion of the education budget. It's true that it has not been
able to produce a satisfactory number of grads despite its vast resourses.
I studied in both St.Xavier's and Budhanilkantha. Having said this, I'm
not here to defend BNKS alums from your crude remarks. Let me quote your
own line 'Basically all BKS alums are product of cheating'. Lemme tell
you one thing, why in the world would you think it's justfiable to lable
all BNK students with such undue remarks? You can't just bombard anybody
with such filthy words just because you thought it was cool. I tell you
it ain't cool.
It's been bugging me lately. Sometimes I recall those harsh words and
wonder maybe I had cheated all my school days and maybe we knew all the
SLC questions beforehand. It's only that I can't remember. And you know
what, one thing I'm darn sure is that the things I don't remember: never
occured to me.
C'omn Amulya let's be more logical and at times it's good to heed to
moral ethics too. Let's not write just for the sake of writing. Such
blatant remarks are not in the best interest of anybody.
Amulya, one student can be a cheater, be it a few, for your satisfaction
let the majority of the BNKS alums be cheaters but to finger all the BNKS
students and alums alike *** YOU ** MUST ** BE ** NUTS **
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Date: 04 Apr 95 21:59:05 EDT
From: Rajendra.P.Shrestha@Dartmouth.EDU (Rajendra P. Shrestha)
Subject: News4/2-3
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
April 2
First Lady goes on safari, meets the other Hillary before Departing
Excerpts from Reuters, CNN, New York Times and AFP reports
Hillary Rodham Clinton on Sunday met the man for whom she is named-
mountaineer Sir Edmund Hillary, the conqueror of Mount Everest.
The wife of President Clinton, was greeted by Hillary, 75, at
Kathmandu's Tribhuvan International Airport when she arrived to take a
plane out of Nepal after a three-day stay.
She flew to Dhaka for a three-day visit to Bangladesh.
Mrs. Clinton, 47, told reporters in Nepal that her mother, Dorothy
Rodham, read an article about Hillary while she was pregnant and that
explained the unusual spelling of her name.
"She read an article in 1947 and that was before he
climbedEverest. So when I was born, she called me Hillary and she
always told me it was because of Sir Edmund Hillary," she said.
Sir Edmund said it was "sheer coincidence" that their paths had
happened to cross. The soft-spoken adventurer runs a foundation that
builds schools and clinics in the Himalayas and he had come to Nepal
on a visit.
The New Zealander, who climbed the world's highest peak in 1953,
saying he had done so "because it was there," noted that Mrs Clinton's
fame now exceeded his own.
"In America before, if anybody recognised the name Hillary it was
always me, and now they say, "Oh, you must be a lady," he said.
Sir Edmund was to have joined Mrs. Clinton overnight at the Tiger
Tops Jungle Lodge, a rustic hotel in the Royal Chitwan National Park
that has played host to guests from Queen Elizabeth II to Goldie
Hawn. But mechanical problems delayed his plane from New Zealand and
he barely made it in time for the airport handshake today.
So he missed the sight of Mrs. Clinton and her 15-year-old
daughter, Chelsea, ensconced in a padded howdah atop Shamsher Bahadur,
a 9-foot, 8 1/2-inch elephant whose name means Brave Tiger, in a
sunset search for a tiger in the grass on Saturday. They were trailed
by three Secret Service agents -- with sunglasses, wrist
walkie-talkies, earphones and all.
"Fancy meeting you all here," Mrs. Clinton called out to reporters
from under a wide-brimmed straw hat as her elephant approached a river
bank for a picture-taking session that had been negotiated with her
reluctant staff in the plaintive entreaties and blunt demurrers
generally reserved for nuclear disarmament talks.
Informed that the reporters, aboard their own fleet of rolling
trunks and giant toenails, had seen three mother-daughter pairs of
armor-plated Asian rhinos, Mrs. Clinton quickly brought the topic
around to the business of her trip: encouraging the education of girls
and women.
"Mothers and daughters?" she exclaimed. "Are they sending their
girls to school?"
In fact, it must be reported, Mrs. Clinton's day off -- sandwiched
between 12 overloaded days of visits to schools, clinics and the
leaders of five nations -- induced in the captive press corps
accompanying her a degree of sympathy rare for traveling journalists.
She and Chelsea rode an elephant on an excursion into jungle where
rare Bengal tigers roam and dined by kerosene lantern at a camp with
only one telephone and no electricity.
Once a royal tiger-hunting preserve, Chitwan is now considered to
be one of the finest game conservation areas in Asia.
Mrs. Clinton began her safari experience after a day of events in
the Napalese capital, Kathmandu, which were designed to politely push
for better treatment of women in a country that is still very much a
man's world.
During her elephant ride and a subsequent boat trip, the First Lady
and her daughter saw rhinoceros, deer, monkeys and wild boar. But the
closest they came to a tiger was seeing some pawprints.
One ride of an hour and a half was enough for Mrs. Clinton, though
Chelsea went out again this morning. Neither spied the big quarry, the
endangered royal Bengal tiger, but they did see rhinos, spotted deer
and a peacock perched in a tree.
Before dining by kerosene lantern Saturday night, she and Chelsea
got full-scale briefings by a U.S. official and a tiger expert on
efforts to improve Nepal's environment.
She was the third important foreign visitor to Nepal in recent
weeks- preceding her to the constitutional monarchy where a communist
government is now in power were a senior North Korean diplomat and the
foreign minister of Cuba.
Nepali, Indian talks end without progress on treaty
AFP report
Two days of talks between Nepal and India ended in Kathmandu Sunday
without progress on amending a 45-year-old friendship treaty but the
two sides agreed to continue dialogue, a Nepalese foreign ministry
statement said.
The two sides had met to discuss amending the 1950 Indo- Nepal
Peace and Friendship Treaty, which Nepal says is one-sided, as well as
other bilateral issues.
The ministry statement said the meeting, held in a "friendly
atmosphere," had "covered all matters of mutual interests and stressed
the need of consolidating the cordial relations existing between Nepal
and India."
The Indian delegation led by Foreign Secretaarrived in Kathmandu
from New Delhi on Saturday morning.
The Nepalese team was headed by Foreign Secretary Kedar Bhakta
Shrestha.
A senior Nepalese official told AFP the two sides had failed to
agree on changes to the Indo- Nepal treaty.
Indian Foreign Secretary Haider said that revision of the 1950
treaty was "not possible," adding that such a move could only be made
on one year's notice from either side, the official said.
The 1950 treaty is seen in Nepal as giving India political leverage
over its northern neighbour and criticised for allowing immigration of
unskilled Indian labour.
One of the key stipulations of the treaty gives nationals the right
to work in both countries and travel between the two without visas.
The treaty supposedly allows extensive cooperation between the two
countries in defence matters, but Nepal complains that India did not
inform Kathmandu of past conflicts with China and Pakistan.
Last week, four splinter factions from the new minority communist
government had demanded that it immediately repeal the "unequal" 1950
treaty with India.
"The 1950 Indo- Nepal Treaty, which is obsolete now, has forced
Nepal to become India's semi-colony," the four factions said in a
statement.
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From: Amresh Karmacharya <psu01146@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
To: Nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Save Environment
I appreciate Pravigyan's interest and willingness to work in order to reduce
environmental degradation in Kathmandu/Nepal. There are all kinds of
agencies in Kathmandu that deal with environmental problems; HMG,
Corporations, INGOs, NGOs, private agencies etc. I am myself an employee
in an NGO involved in water pollutions studies. Unless there is a
commitment at every level it is difficult to achieve any thing.
What I think is Working Outside Kathmandu is Saving Kathmandu.
Creating opportunities outside Kathmandu is saving kathmandu.
Preventing migration of 100 people to Kathmandu
is reducing waste generated by 100 people and space occupied by hundred people.
Amresh.
Portland State University
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From: "Mr. Mahendra Prasad Panthee" <panthee@math.iisc.ernet.in>
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Minister Resigns
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 14:25:33 IST
Dear Editor, here is a piece of news from "The Hindu" an Indian News Paper.
The Nepali Health and Labour Welfare Mininster, Mr. Padma Ratna
tuladhar, an outspoken language activist , has resigned in a row over the
promotion of Sanskrit, tthe Nepali language daily KAnttipur reported on
TTuesday. Mr. Tuladhar is said to be vehemently opposed to the promotion
of Sanskrit, which many in Nepal consider to be a dead language an in which
State-owned radio Nepal began broadcsting news bulletins on Monday. A group
of anti-Sanskrit activists set fire to radio sets in the middle of the city
aas the first Sanskrit language news bulletin was broadcast by Radio Nepal
on Monday evening.
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 1995 09:26:22 +0930
To: a10rjs1@cs.niu.edu
From: S Hrestha <shrestha@arts.adelaide.edu.au>
Subject: Note for Editor
Dear Editor,
In order to make TND more useful can we do something like
1. Minimize personal information like attacking someone.
2. When figures of somothing like X million rupees or y thousand hec.of lands
are mentioned, it is better to cite source of information to reflect the qualit
y
of the figure. Sometimes, those seems interesting but I doubt those figures.
At least people those who got from good source can mention it.
Kumud Shrestha, Adelaide, Australia
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:01:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ashutosh Tiwari <tiwari@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: NOT Nepalese, but Nepali; and we are rather adamant about it.
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
In response to Jagdish Dawadi's question: The Greater Boston Nepali
Community (GBNC) does NOT have any office-space in Boston. But thanks to
the hard-work of SUNIL SHAKYA and RAMONA CHITRAKAR, the GBNC is now in the
process of being formally recognized by the City of Cambridge, and the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts. This recognition would allow GBNC to exist
officially as a non-profit, enjoy a tax-exempt status, among other
benefits.
The GBNC is a non-political and non-ideological support-group for
Nepali students, families, scholars, and professionals and others
interested in Nepal and Nepalis, in the Greater Boston area. Most GBNC
Nepalis are students at one of many Boston's universities such as MIT,
Harvard, Brandeis, Tufts, Clark U, Boston U, Northeastern, and other
fine academic institutions. Virtually all Nepali students in Boston have
e-mail, and all are on the TND list.
In theory, you can come down to visit any Boston Nepali any time. In
practice, it's a good idea to first send an e-mail.
namaste
ashu
president
greater boston nepali community
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:44:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pravignya Regmi <pregmi@emerald.tufts.edu>
To: Nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Thank you all
THANK YOU ALL
I have been receiving emails regarding my previous publication in TND
titled, "Help Nepal Save Environment". Thank you every one for comments,
suggestions and appreciation. I am encouraged by receiving an inundating
amount of responses from all around the world.
I will keep up posting the environmental issues.
Thank you again.
Pravi.
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ashutosh Tiwari <tiwari@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: This side of paradise
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
I found Bhushan Mudhbary's criticism of Pratyoush Onta's essay
"festivals are fun, but for whom?" most amusing. Amusing, not because it
was funny or entertaining, but because, the spirited defense from our
"physics and electrical engineering" graduate basically amounted to
something like: 'Leave my cousin [Hari Sharma, a fine doctor] alone.' In
other words, 'who are you Mr. Pratyoush Onta to play with the words of my
fine cousin Hari Sharma?'
Pratyoush's essay, as far as I can critically understand it, was NOT
some stuffy academic piece, but a lucid commentary on the kind of DUAL
existence that we, the so-called educated Nepalis, have to deal with
just about every day, in Nepal or abroad.
On one hand, for instance, we get carried away with the
IMPORTED notion of Nepal's exoticism [I mean, I did NOT know Nepal was
exotic or even that I myself was thought to be exotic until I came to
America, and I am sure most other Nepalis in America have somewhat
similar experiences!], claiming our share of it, even though most of us
may be far removed from the real "exotic" Nepalis that the West celebrates.
On the other hand, this forced happy-go-lucky self-image of
ours often becomes a convenient mask for us to cover the harsh and
unpalatable contours of our "peace-loving, poor but happy" society with
great charm that only skilled writers such as Pico Iyer (who wrote "Video
Nights in Kathmandu) can discern.
In the essay, Pratyoush knocks down the ease with which Nepalis
abroad try to ride on this bandwagon of exotica by pointing out the big
picture: which is, our much-hyped festivals are NOT really all that fun for
most people, especially the women. And Pratyoush paints this big picture
with skilful use of evidence -- a rebuttal to a PUBLISHED quote of
Hari Sharma, an elaboration on some Santosh Pant comedy and a reportage
of Newari woman's sorrow in the face of festivals.
To rebut Hari Sharma is NOT to show him disrespect or even question
his medical competence, as Bhushan implies. But just to use it as an example
to drive the thesis of the essay forward. This sort of technique is
well-known to any avid reader of essays, newspaper columns, and
general non-fiction.
Lastly, if I were Hari Sharma, I would be greatly flattered that
my once-upon-a-time-remark could be of much study to one of Nepal's fine
young historians :-) . A matter of perspective, no?
namaste
ashu
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 19:23:18 CDT
From: sbshah@gumbo.bae.lsu.edu (Sanjay B. Shah)
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Re: Notice
Dear Editor,
Kindly publish the following notice in the forthcoming
issue of TND.
INFORMATION REQUIRED
I have been admitted to Kansas State Univ. (Manhattan)
as well as to Virginia Tech. (Blacksburg) to do my PhD in agric.
engineering beginning Fall, '95.
I'd be happy to establish contacts with students as well
as professionals working around there to gain more information
about those places.
Thanks
Sanjay Bikram Shah
L. S. U.
sbshah@gumbo.bae.lsu.edu
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From: mbhatta@sas.upenn.edu (Madhav Bhatta)
Subject: Festivals, Fun and Self-Reflection
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu (Nepal Digest)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:22:10 -0400 (EDT)
Mr Mudbhary in his response to Mr Onta's essay titled "Fun and
Festivals..." attacks the writer for his "pessimistic bile" and "arrogant
dissection" of Dr Sharma's quotes on Kathmandu that appeared in ANA news
letter. When I read the essay I took it as a piece on self-reflection
about our culture, customs and society as a whole, rather than attack on
Dr. Sharma, "the suburbnite from Upsate-NY". I have not met Dr Sharma,
who happens to be Mr Mudbhary's cousin, but as Mr Mudhary would say "so,
what?", but just to let you know that I know Mr Onta but he is not my
cousin! But once again, "so, what?" Just one more thing about myself- I
am a Nepali who goes to school in the USA and I do not consider myself
as a "long-distance Nepali"; not yet anyway!! By the way, even if UPENN
was close commute to ASSAN, it would still be hell-of-a long way from where
I come from, and that would make me a "long-distance-something." Anyway,
the whole point of the essay was, as I said before, self-reflection.
After going through the dictionary Mr Mudbhary convinced himself that
Kathmandu was indeed a museum, rather a living museum. And he defined it
as "a vigorous, operational and a resplendant exhibit of artistic and
historic objects." To anyone who has seen Kathmandu or heard
about it, the fact that Kathmandu has numerous "artistic and historic
objects [temples, palaces etc], will come as no suprise. After all that
is the reason, together with few others, thousands of tourists flock the
streets of Kathmandu. But that is not all there is to Kathmandu. Apart
from the "artistic and historic objects", about a million people inhabit
that city. All these people are living in present and are not just a
"vigorous, operational and a resplendant exhibit." Surely, they are
vigorous; surely, they are operational; surely, they are resplendant; but
they are noway an exhibit for the tourist, be it foreigners or
long-distance Nepalis, to visit for a day. I think that was the point Mr
Onta was trying to make, or that is the way understood and I could not
agree more.
It would be nice if everyone in Kathmandu or Nepal, rich and
poor, could have fun during the festivals and all year round.
But the reality is otherwise! It is not a "pessimistic bile" and
"misgivings about our brethern in Kathamndu", but it is the reality. It
is always hard to swallow the reality; accept our follies; difficult to
look within ourselves and be critical. Instead the standard reaction is
to be defensive and that is exactly what Mr Mudbhary did. Arrogance
is shown by people who think everything is all right when it is not! I
don't think it is arrogant to look critically at our society, and point
out the weakness. It is about time that we do it. Hell, it is fun to
play paplu-eat MASU-etc.. but behind all these funs, there are people who
suffer to provide the entertainment and comforts. That does not mean
that we should stop celebrating but it does certainly mean that we should
be aware of how we do it! That I think was the point and criticism of Mr
Onta in his essay. And if Mr Mudbhary had read it carefully, instead of
"paged down his way through the essay", he might have seem the point
other than the attack on Dr Sharma, his Upstate-NY suburbanite cousin.
Madhav P. Bhatta
University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA.
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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 14:33:59 -0700
From: eta957093@rccvax.ait.ac.th
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Khoj Khabar..
Dear editor,
I am searching following persons..
1.Sanjaya Shrestha.... Nebraska
2.Kanchan Sharma.......Nebraska
3.Pawan Adhikari.......doing masters in some development related topic in UK
Please pass the message to our netters ,
Thanking you
Shobhakar Dhakal(AIT Bangkok)
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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 14:38:44 -0700
From: eta957093@rccvax.ait.ac.th
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Energy group
Dear Netters
I am Shobhakar Dhakal, from AIT Bangkok doing Master in "Energy Planning and Policy"
I am trying to bring together all energy related persons to know each other and to help and share many useful things.
I would be highly obliged if you could inform your whereabout , field,and some minor details so that we can make "directory".
Thanking you in anticipation.
Shobhakar
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